September 15, 2018
Interview with Count Christian d’Andlau Hombourg, historian, financier and French politician.. Formerly PanEuropa’s Secretary General, he currently holds the Presidency of the Strasbourg jurisdiction of Paneurope. He also is the President of the Federalist Party in Alsace.
Is Steve Bannon trying to create a transnational natioinalist party along the lines of the transnational federalist party that you are President of in Alsace? Before I continue to talk about Steven Bannon I want to say on the record that I am embarrassed to be an American at the moment having an American come over and try to influence European Politics in such a negative way. Bannon we know is influenced by UKIP and the different leaders within the other already established right-wing groups. Aren’t the Nationalists copying the Federalists by trying to create a transnational Nationalist Party or is something different?
No no they’re not copying us. The exact opposite to us The exact opposite but you know sometimes the opposites are meeting when…
Well when copying in the idea of uniting…
Yes, you said transnational lists.
I understand what you mean, but they’re not copying us. Everybody has the same idea. All the parties in Europe are I suppose, all of them. The idea of being transnational and French Socialist. I would like to have German Socialists, Italian Socialist, everybody but being from the same party. They had not succeeded. Even the Socialists with the work sessions, they did not succeed. But we’ve been in 19 in 2014, four years ago on a very modest level, very modest level. But we have done it now— to come back to Mr Bannon- your asking how an American influence would be received in Europe. I don’t know. I personally don’t think it’s a problem… First of all I must tell you that I’m half American. My mother was American, but I’m also half European. So I don’t see whether it was a problem.
America’s CIA financed both Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi and Jean Monnet
As I just told you two minutes ago [the] founder of Pan Europe was Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi.
He was financed by his American Freemason friends from the beginning of his think back in 1925 until he retired in 1972. Its no secret. This is not classified information. It’s declassified information that Jean Monet one of the founding fathers of Europe was a member of the Central Intelligence Agency. And the agency has declassified this document so now it’s common knowledge. I presume in the newspapers of the most serious newspapers in France and in the other European countries we have always suspected that Germany was a U.S agent but now we know.
George Soros is also a US citizen
So Mr. Bannon or Mr. George Soros are American citizens. I’m not sure if George Soros is a citizen. He is a citizen of the United Kingdom, which he is I am sure of but may be is also a U.S. citizen. Is the fact that Mr. Soros or Mr. Bannon are US citizens a problem for them to indulge in European politics? I don’t think so. I don’t think so, not especially today in the time of globalization.
Elected Officials in France from Foreign cultures
We have some people in France who are culturally more far away to the French culture. [They] are elected in France as mayors of some villages. Sometimes even mayors of some cities and who are elected at the Parliament and sometimes even they can become ministers. They come from foreign cultures foreign to Europe. More far away than the US so I really don’t see where the problem is. Coudenhove-Kalergi used to say that he wanted a Pan European union from San Francisco to Vladivostok. That was one of his motives from San Francisco to Vladivostok, which is nice, I like the idea.
In a Federalist Democracy the Nationalists Voice Must Be Heard
So the fact that an American Mr. Bannon comes into European politics is not shocking for me. I wouldn’t like to see him succeed and break the Union as he said that he would. But I’m very happy to see him come and to see him confederate the nationalist party’s in Europe. Because these people must have a voice. If we want to have a democratic European union we need these people, we need them. And we need to hear their voice.
Are the Federalists and Nationalists Like the 2 Party System in the US?
So then it would become an almost 2 party system like the US has. We have the Republicans and Democrats and your saying Europe would have the federalists and nationalists.
Well there’s not much difference. Excuse me, I don’t know what your political opinions are, I don’t want to hurt your own political convictions, but there is a much greater difference, a constitutional difference seen from Europe. There’s not much difference between the Democrats and the Republicans in the USA. As it is said in French it is blanc bonnet ou bonnet blanc. But between a Federalist party like ours and Nationalist parties, like Mr. Bannon wants to confederate or federate I don’t know it’s a solid move. It’s the day or the night. Its really the opposite like the Front National in France. So we totally disagree on everything but I think that these people are sincerely democratic just as we are. As the French philosopher Voltaire used to say Sir I totally disagree with you but I shall fight for your right to say what you want to say, I like it.
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